SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad

Adaptiva OneSite and 1E SMSNomad are two innovative products; I always wonder why Microsoft doesn’t take over one of these products so that the clients of ConfigMgr don’t want to pay more for the improved performance of a Microsoft product—Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

I’ve another blog post that talks about comparing two products. Adaptiva OneSite And 1E Nomad A Comaprision – Anoopcnair.com.

OneSite is targeted as a solution for all kinds of SCCM data, including SCCM Policy, all types of Inventory data, Status messages, and Packages. Nomad manages only SCCM Packages.

Through this blog, I will try to document the comparison between the ConfigMgr (SCCM) extension products with the help of discussions on various forums. Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

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SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad

Systems management across large global networks is complex and requires large investments in infrastructure. Adaptiva OneSite is a revolutionary add-on to Microsoft’s ConfigMgr 2007 and SMS 2003 that enables you to manage an extensive distributed network as if it were a single local network. SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

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  • Roll out ConfigMgr 2007 server infrastructure instantly: no additional hardware, do it in weeks.
  • Simplify operations: no system design or operational maintenance
  • Lower costs: Reduce server cost, maximize bandwidth utilization
  • Dramatically faster package downloads
  • Secure software distribution and patching
  • Fault-tolerant and agile

Nomad Enterprise consists of two powerful components. It uses patented technology to optimize network efficiency and performance, enabling server consolidation and allowing customers to get the most out of their existing networks, avoiding costly network upgrades and additional hardware requirements.

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Nomad Branch® distributes systems management data once over the WAN and then shares it locally with peer agents in branch offices, with or without multicast. No physical visits to the branch sites are required. SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

PXE Lite provides network booting capabilities without the need for separate server hardware, thereby reducing costs and making efficient use of network bandwidth, and enabling real zero-touch bare-metal OS deployments.

I want to add another good discussion on the TechNet ConfigMgr forum (mainly the last part of the discussion). SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

You can read more about the “Healthy Debate,” and I have highlighted below some of its main attractive parts (from my point of view). Comments from Deepak Kumar, Chief Technology Officer, Adaptiva.

One Site works well with B/W accelerators that are out of the box. They never fool our measurements.

Version 1.2 of One Site will include a full Peer-to-peer PXE Server stack. You will not need to deploy anything separately, like PXE Lite for OSD. SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs. 1E Nomad.

Master-slave architectures are obsolete for Peer-to-Peer because they severely impact “Master” machines. One Site is based on a daisy chain architecture, which is zero-impact for all participating peers. It is also more dynamic, allowing peers to come and go as they please without resulting in any re-downloading of content.

You can download the recording of my detailed Webinar on the subject. It includes a presentation on One Site’s internal architecture.

http://www.adaptiva.com/w…tivaOneSiteWebinar.wmv

If you’re evaluating OneSite against Nomad, please watch my detailed OneSite video on: http://adaptiva.com/videos.html

  It includes an engineering presentation of our internal architecture and will greatly assist in your comparison.

1. Eliminating all DPs – Comments from mnikolajevs are correct. OneSite eliminates all DPs. You can use OneSite for small and large sites alike, not just branch offices, and remove all DPs from your environment. OneSite never needs a DP for any reason.

 Nomad requires DPs for two reasons. Firstly, all master clients must connect to a DP to copy the package over. Second, every time any Nomad client, master or slave, copies any package, even using P2P, it must first go over the WAN to the DP and copy the LSZ file for that package from the DP. For Nomad to work, you must have a functioning DP infrastructure in place, with dependencies like site boundaries, distribution manager, and such.

2. Master-slave architecture vs. Daisy-chaining – Adaptiva OneSite contains a modern zero-impact P2P design. All Adaptiva clients arrange themselves in a daisy chain. The first client gives content to client 2, which provides it with to client 3, and so on. This means that each client serves packages to at most one other client at a time. It scales infinitely even in very large sites because it has linear scalability characteristics. In a “Master-slave” architecture, multiple slaves download content from the same master. You can imagine what happens to the “Master” machine when various clients connect to it and simultaneously start copying files from it. Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

3. Adaptive bandwidth Management:  Adaptiva OneSite contains an NDIS Kernel Driver that monitors the lengths of data queues at bottleneck routers in real-time. It then places a single packet of data on the queue when it is nearly empty. As a result, we can harvest all UNUSED bandwidth without competing with foreground traffic. 

Nomad’s actual bandwidth management capabilities seem to be a bit ambiguous. According to a post from 1E’s Ed Aldrich, this is how it works: 
Nomad client starts copying files from the DP across the WAN –
 Every 4 seconds, the Nomad client sends a ping across the WAN. If pings take longer to reach, it reduces the rate of file copying. Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

 If true, this approach would be crude and ineffective because the network has already been congested by the time PING messages are delayed. The Adaptiva approach detects network congestion BEFORE it has happened and prevents congestion, rather than reacting to it. Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad

 I’d love to see a clear explanation from 1E about Nomad’s actual bandwidth management capabilities, including definitions of the terms “Available bandwidth” and “Work rate.”

4. Caching:  Adaptiva OneSite contains a Kernel File System driver that combines the free disk space on all the computers in each office into a “Virtual SAN.” e.g., if there are 20 computers with 100 GB free space each, we’ll create a 2 TB “Virtual SAN” for you and cache your packages as they arrive at the office. When users need more space, we detect their usage and automatically release space to them without noticing it since we are the file system. The benefit for you is that you get almost limitless cache space for free, and you’ll never need to manage this cache or delete files from it manually.

I agree with Deepak’s “Impact on Master.” In my previous assignment, I personally experienced this problem for many branch offices. It impacts the master’s entire performance. However, I am unsure if there are any changes to the latest releases of 1E SMSNomad.

See the reply from Richard Threlkeld, 1E.
Master-slave is obsolete? This is quite a naive statement, especially your point about the impact on the master. I’m sure our thousands of customers running Nomad on hundreds of thousands of systems would disagree with you. You also clearly do not know from your other statements how Nomad works with its dynamic election process.

Please don’t try to come onto a 1E forum and goad us into a debate by misrepresenting our software, especially when your goal is to glean more information about how our software works. This, frankly, is unprofessional of you. Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad.

Our customers will contact us if you are curious about how Nomad works. Thank you very much.

I don’t think these types of replies help 1E. Also, I am curious why 1E is not explaining its internal architecture (Did I miss anything?). Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad

I want to share some neutral comments and client feedback on both products.

<Unfortunately, the actual comments were removed from this blog as myITforum.com states that I need to get the “Consent” from them before publishing their email comments in the blog> 🙁

Paul Thomsen pointed out that vendors shouldn’t compete in community forums. Product selection should be based on “For What It’s Worth!”!!

Joel Grove, one of the pleased customers of Onesite, had a more detailed analysis and comparison report between these two products. Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad

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Anoop C Nair is Microsoft MVP! He is a Device Management Admin with more than 20 years of experience (calculation done in 2021) in IT. He is a Blogger, Speaker, and Local User Group HTMD Community leader. His primary focus is Device Management technologies like SCCM 2012, Current Branch, and Intune. He writes about ConfigMgr, Windows 11, Windows 10, Azure AD, Microsoft Intune, Windows 365, AVD, etc.

2 thoughts on “SCCM Comparison Between Adaptiva Onesite Vs 1E Nomad”

  1. Anoop, you need to get consent from these people before you can publish a post like this. Especially considering the source of these comments. I’m sure most of these were not intended to be compiled into a blog post.

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  2. Hi, Anoop. It’s great that you want to cover this. However, before posting content from emails, particularly from myITforum.com managed and monitored lists and properties, you will need to ask each person specifically if they can be quoted or represented here.

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